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Horary Astro的初级手

sagittr 发表于: 2008-10-25 09:51 来源: 游学欧洲网

最近迷上了时辰占卜,发现这真是一个非常非常有趣、难度非常非常高的占星学分支。时辰占卜是十七世纪William Lilly创立并发展起来的,后来逐渐被占星届遗忘,二十世纪的时候由著名的占星师Olivia Barclay重新发扬光大。

昨天问了两个问题,起了盘,连个问题均在第一步就可以得到被否定的答案,不得不惊叹horary真的是太准了;不过要是第一步可行,再难一点的我也不会解释了,呵呵~ 有兴趣的朋友可以去钻研一下,下次一起来分享啊~

这个是从网上搜到的例子,问卜者是想问她的恋爱关系能否走进婚姻:


"Will my affair end in marriage?"

Horary astrology question

This question was received on May 19, 2005, at 10:37:28 pm EED, in Tirgu Mures, Romania (46e34, 24e33). The woman asking the question tells she is having an affair and inquires whether it would end in marriage.


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The questioner, the woman, is represented by Venus, ruler of the Ascendant, and the Moon (co-ruler), while the man she has an affair with, is represented by Mars, ruler of the 7th house.

We see Venus being peregrine, mutable and cadent in the 9th house, a position that presents her as powerless, waiting for things to happen, possibly to marry a foreigner (9th house) or to move abroad after the marriage. She is not in the position to change the flow of the events.

The Moon in the 1st house tells about her sensitivity. So does the South Node located also in the 1st house, a unfavorable position.

Mars, his significator is in a better position, in its own triplicity.

There is an applying square between Venus and Mars, with some reception: Venus receives Mars in its exaltation (she respects and admires him, possibly more than he deserves, this is love and its rose tinted glasses), but Mars receives Venus only in its face (he is only concerned about her, but there are no strong feelings).

The other significator of his, the Sun (the natural significator of men), located at 29 Taurus, is received by Venus in its domicile and triplicity (indicating again love and that she thinks at him). In the mean time, Venus is not received by the Sun in any of its dignities. The Sun is about to leave Taurus, going to a place where it won't be anymore received by Venus, so he is likely to lose interest in her, soon. The other significator of hers, the Moon, co-ruler of the querent, is received by the Sun (him) in its fall sign (Libra), which might indicate even some adverse feelings about her.

So, the significators say that she loves him truly, but he doesn't love her.

The Moon's square with Saturn is another "no marriage" sign. Although the traditional horary astrologers reject the use of the asteroids in a horary chart, it is worth inserting the most specific marriage asteroid, Juno: . It is located at 18°31' Aries and is disposed by Mars and the Sun, the man's significators, indicating that the marriage is totally up to him. As he doesn't seem willing to do this and as the Moon is in applying opposition with Juno, the 'No' answer is reinforced.

[ 本帖最后由 sagittr 于 2008-10-25 09:57 编辑 ]

最新回复

山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 13:37:57
··姐姐~~~这个在ASTRO上面有吗?~
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:02:53
哈哈 妹妹感兴趣哈~

这个也可以用ASTRO可以做,起盘的方法和绘制出生盘的方法是一样的,区别在于出生时间地点写你问卜时候的时间、地点,另外宫位置那里选择Regiomontanus就可以了 ~
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:04:01
但是我发现解读的方法好难!

需要认真学习威廉里利的论述 汗啊~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:11:32
我刚刚制作了一张···贴到了Forum里··············

目前还没人回~~~~

这个看着觉得很有道理呢~~~~当然感兴趣啦~~~~

姐姐在Forum里昨天也贴了帖子吧~~~ 因为看到跟姐姐一样的名字了~~~
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:13:16
哈哈哈 ~

对的对的 我昨天贴了 ~   

但是我发现一个问题  就是说LILLY的原则是问题要到了很CRITICAL的时候被问卜才是有意义的 ~

所以我那个问题 哈哈 ~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:16:08
呵呵~~~我问的问题也差不多啦~~~

还是没有人回答~~~~
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:19:23
不知道妹妹有没有看到LILLY的解释是 如果上升点在一个星座的后3度,说明问题问得太晚了 ~

对这点我不是很明白,是说问题没有解决的机会了吗?哈哈 ~

另一个就是月亮的走向和RECEPTION的概念 还不很懂 ~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:24:14
那姐姐觉得时程占卜可以想办法解决吗?···
如果可以的话也许是关于那个确定程度的问题·····如果上升在后三度可能就是确定的了~~或是不再在星象中显示了~~不太清楚呢~~~

我以为是注定的呢·····Lilly的论述我还没怎么看明白···

这一门好高深啊~~~···
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:30:30
他说,

上升点如果在一个星座的前3度或后3度,说明问题无效,前者是问得太早,后者是问得太晚了~

如果月亮有VOC,也说明是一个无效盘,没有可以预期的事情发生~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:32:42
那看样子我是问得太早了~~~~

哎··


那在不同时刻问结果会很不一样吗?······这一点我也挺疑惑的·····


呵呵···看到姐姐的回复了~~~~我待会再问一下~~~

[ 本帖最后由 山鬼夜心 于 2008-10-25 15:34 编辑 ]
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:37:07
天啊 妹妹简直太神速了 我才回复的啊  哈哈 ~

你那句话太可爱了 “我待会再问一下” 哈哈 ~

我昨天晚上2个问题 一个是月VOC,一个是后3度 ~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:40:25
那岂不是都无效?~~~~~

多问几遍说不定有一个是有效的~~~~~··

我决定一直问到有效问出答案为止·······

今天因为这事心情好低落的···~~~

不过回回帖学学占星心情也好转了不少~~~
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:43:32
我觉得不能一直不停地问啊 妹妹~  选一个你觉得最想问、最该问的时候问才会有效~

真想像里利那么厉害 现在就什么都能解释了啊 ~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:43:57
看样子得一直等到过到下个星座中间部分才会有答案了~~~~~哎~~
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:45:14
休息一下  心情比较安静的时候再起一个看看 ~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:45:38
是啊~~~是不是这个问题应该昨天就问的呢?~~~哎~~~

后悔了~~~

去看看昨天的Chart~~~说不定有答案呢~~~

可是为什么在前三度后三度会无答案呢?~~~~~
sagittr at 2008-10-25 15:47:21
我相信是注定的 ~

就算换一个时间去起一个有效的盘,也可能CHART会给同一个答案~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:52:42
忽啊~~~

答案出来了~~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:53:44
我把时间改成了昨天的·····然后看到答案了~~上升在中间~~~
山鬼夜心 at 2008-10-25 15:59:51
结果似乎~~~~~